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[eLDY]

Pretty much whats going on is that my pc has been reaching super high temps with this extreme heat wave thats been going on. Lately my games have been skipping frames, no matter what i play. Im pretty sure its the cooling because my legs are practically sweating from all the heat its putting out. I did a hardware monitor with CPUID and what i saw was fucking ridiculous. Heres a screen shot of it:


Now heres a link to my Dell XPS 8100 i5 650 is: http://computers.top...000-review.html

Mind you i also have a gtx 550 ti superclocked in there which is also making the space in the small tower much less and more hot as well as a roswell powersupply thats way better than the initial one my pc came with.

There isnt any space left for fans. is it possible to get a better tower that has more fan space? Im pretty sure that the way dell makes their shit difficult to do a tower swap with the power lights led and etc. Or can i make custom fan slots on the side of my pc. What do i do? Last thing i want is everything to get fried due to heating issues.

what kind of fans should i get? and maybe a CPU cooling of some sort. Links would be awesome cus idk whats compatable with my pc.

Can someone please help me?

Thanks.

[BRIN]

Well in the short term, feel free to take the side of the case of and stick a small fan, or a 20 inch fan next to the open case and just blow tons of air into the case before you burn up your CPU and your graphic's card. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811999612, I own one of these and there is no other 80 mm fan that displaces as much air, but it is loud as hell, but you will feel the breeze that this one fan alone creates. I think that case has a 120mm fan in the front, you need to replace it, the dell factory fan's are variable speed temp, for a 120mm fan http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835228013 this one moves a good amount of air. Also you need to replace your power supply, not that you dont have enough juice, but the dell factory has one, slow fan in it. You need a PS with dual ball bearing fans. All of this is just to get the heat out of the case, you dont need a new CPU fan your cpu isn't creating the heat issue, your case was just not designed to disapate that kind of heat. Replace the power supply to get one with much stronger fans, tornado 80mm in back and high CFM 120 in front. that should take care of it, it will be alot!! louder especiallly with a tornado fan, but better than replacing your motherboard and cpu because you burned it, up. You could consider moving all your gear into a bigger eaiser to cool case, or just take the side off of that one and blow a fan directly into the case!!

hope that helps, let me know if you need anything else. Computers are what i do for a living.

[Bio]

Go to target or walmart. Buy a fan. And prop it up against your computer.

[eLDY]

BRIN, on 24 July 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

Well in the short term, feel free to take the side of the case of and stick a small fan, or a 20 inch fan next to the open case and just blow tons of air into the case before you burn up your CPU and your graphic's card. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811999612, I own one of these and there is no other 80 mm fan that displaces as much air, but it is loud as hell, but you will feel the breeze that this one fan alone creates. I think that case has a 120mm fan in the front, you need to replace it, the dell factory fan's are variable speed temp, for a 120mm fan http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835228013 this one moves a good amount of air. Also you need to replace your power supply, not that you dont have enough juice, but the dell factory has one, slow fan in it. You need a PS with dual ball bearing fans. All of this is just to get the heat out of the case, you dont need a new CPU fan your cpu isn't creating the heat issue, your case was just not designed to disapate that kind of heat. Replace the power supply to get one with much stronger fans, tornado 80mm in back and high CFM 120 in front. that should take care of it, it will be alot!! louder especiallly with a tornado fan, but better than replacing your motherboard and cpu because you burned it, up. You could consider moving all your gear into a bigger eaiser to cool case, or just take the side off of that one and blow a fan directly into the case!!

hope that helps, let me know if you need anything else. Computers are what i do for a living.

I have a ps with dual bearing fans. im not using the stock one the dell came with. Thanks for the help i really appreciate it. im going to grab the fans you told me.

[Sha1hulud]

...Stop playing when it's so hot if you don't want to spend money to fix it...

[DOOMSDAY]

Drill mounting holes on the side of the case for 2 more fans.

buy a fan controll unit so you can run them at 100% all the time.

Or buy a corsair h50 liquid cooling unit like I have. I love it.

[Tower]

Also, moved this topic to 'Tech Support'

[TerminaL]

You should also note that most pc cases have a specific air flow path. For instance, my case intakes air from the front of the case and the side while the top and rear fans are used for exhaust. The cold air is sucked in, it takes a bunch of heat from the system, and is then blown out of the case. So when you add large components then you are changing the flow of air in your computer which can cause heating problems if the air flow is prevented from exhausting. So the added GPU and new PSU could be causing the heating problems you're experiencing if there isn't enough room for the air to do its job.

So before doing something drastic like creating more areas for fans or replacing the side of your pc with a huge fan you should give the pc a real good cleaning. Make sure all the vents arn't clogged up with dust and that the fans are running smoothly. If that doesn't help your heat problem then you may want to look at the fans themselves, it's very possible that they are just not running well anymore and can't get up to the rpm that you need to keep your pc cool, a less likely problem is the motherboard is having trouble telling the fans how fast they should be going.

If all is said and done, your current fans run well and your pc is completely void of dust, but you are still having heating problems then a fix could be creating a larger airflow in your pc (faster fans). To be completely honest you should look into purchasing a new case, a full atx is probably the best if you ever plan on upgrading more parts of your pc (mobo, 3rd party cpu coolers, sli/crossfire, etc...) and there are a few really good ones (anted 1200, haf 932). If you'd want to try a cheaper way you could just try to upgrade your fans to ones that can move air faster, or you could even try modding your case for more fans if your confident that you can make the airflow better.

[DOOMSDAY]

drilling 4 holes is drastic lol?
great info though Terminal

[TerminaL]

DOOMSDAY, on 25 July 2011 - 12:54 PM, said:

drilling 4 holes is drastic lol?
great info though Terminal

anything that requires me to wield sharp or potentially dangerous tools is drastic
Suffice it to say, I'm probably not the best person in the world you'd want working with a drill, I mean it's not like I ever accidentally drilled through my brothers hand while we were making a bench for the front yard

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[DOOMSDAY]

lol, yeaaaa. Maybe dont do that again.

[Justlyruined]

I have ran into the exact same problem. I was reaching internal temps of 95+ within minutes of playing and was crashing about 60 min into play. I have opened the case and added a fan blowing air into the case and it has done wonders to the temps.

[DOOMSDAY]

Im tellin you guys:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835181010
small, inexpensive, works like a charm

[Balhaar]

Weird. From what I know your computer should only start acting weird when temperatures of 75°C+ are being reached. When this happened to my computer I dismounted my processor and replaced the cooling paste behind it. Temperature of my CPU dropped by 20°C. This costed me only a couple of bucks.

[Zarine]

Core temps over 60 degrees can severely damage your CPU. Typically want to keep it under 55 under full load.

[Balhaar]

Normal quad core cpu temperatures under full load are always between 55 and 70 degrees. Doesn't damage your CPU at all. Continuously temperatures above 75 degrees are considered dangerous. Everything between 65-70 degrees is just considered warm. Might be different for dual core processors where temperatures might be lower. Think it's different for newer and better processors anyways.

[igthorn99]

Without knowing your air flow through your system it could be a number of things. First it's possible your fan is not pulling enough heat away from the CPU. I'd suggest picking up a Zalman fan with 90mm or greater fan size. Second make sure you power supply fan is working and pulling air through the front and out the back. This is key to making sure your system is pulling enough fresh air through the case. Also, never run with your case off because you will lose proper air circulation.

- Check fans (all operating and no grinding noise)
- Check case air flow
- Check power supply air flow
- Check your room temperature (is it really hot in the room or do you have a personal heater near by?)

If you replace your cpu fan/heatsink remove all existing grease on cpu. Apply new grease to the heatsink and slap on. A good 90mm+ heatsink/fan will drop your temps down at least 10%.